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Barack Obama HITS. IT. OUT. OF. THE. PARK!!

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I don’t care WHO you intend to vote for, you MUST watch Barack’s speech. Even if you’re dead set on voting for John McCain, at least hear what his opponent has to say.

This speech is fantastic. One of the best I’ve personally ever heard. Just watch it!

I edited this post because the full speech is now available in one file:

McCain has his work cut out for him…

GRAND. SLAM.

42 thoughts on “Barack Obama HITS. IT. OUT. OF. THE. PARK!!

  1. My folks were there and said it was incredible. You know it had to be impressive if McCain paid for an ad to say “congratulations on a job well done.” (An ad that was carefully calculated by his campaign, to be sure, but interesting that for one night at least, no one had anything but high praise for Barack Obama.)

  2. My folks were there and said it was incredible. You know it had to be impressive if McCain paid for an ad to say “congratulations on a job well done.” (An ad that was carefully calculated by his campaign, to be sure, but interesting that for one night at least, no one had anything but high praise for Barack Obama.)

  3. Mccain responded today with announcing his VP partner.
    Looks like it’s gonna be a great race.

  4. Mccain responded today with announcing his VP partner.
    Looks like it’s gonna be a great race.

  5. Mykel,

    His candidate choice is very interesting to me. My friend David Harter from Corning told me about her several weeks ago, as she was his favorite. David also made me aware, through a post he recently put on a local board, of this:

    Palin’s strong pro-life views were highlighted earlier this year when she and her husband Todd were informed she was carrying a Down syndrome child but chose to carry through with the pregnancy.

    “We’ve both been very vocal about being pro-life,” Palin told the Associated Press. “We understand that every innocent life has wonderful potential.”

    The day after the birth, the Palins said in a statement: “We knew through early testing he would face special challenges, and we feel privileged that God would entrust us with this gift and allow us unspeakable joy as he entered our lives. We have faith that every baby is created for good purpose and has potential to make this world a better place. We are truly blessed.”

  6. Mykel,

    His candidate choice is very interesting to me. My friend David Harter from Corning told me about her several weeks ago, as she was his favorite. David also made me aware, through a post he recently put on a local board, of this:

    Palin’s strong pro-life views were highlighted earlier this year when she and her husband Todd were informed she was carrying a Down syndrome child but chose to carry through with the pregnancy.

    “We’ve both been very vocal about being pro-life,” Palin told the Associated Press. “We understand that every innocent life has wonderful potential.”

    The day after the birth, the Palins said in a statement: “We knew through early testing he would face special challenges, and we feel privileged that God would entrust us with this gift and allow us unspeakable joy as he entered our lives. We have faith that every baby is created for good purpose and has potential to make this world a better place. We are truly blessed.”

  7. donny, thats called speech writers:)

  8. donny, thats called speech writers:)

  9. John.

    Amazing how people label things with such skepticism when the person being discussed is not their candidate of choice, yet that same person would look at a speech from someone they liked totally different.

    Why not take him at his word? Why not believe what he says? Expect good things from a person, and they’ll likely rise to that. Expect bad, and you’ll get bad.

    Remaining in poor opinion of someone really only hurts the person harboring the poor opinion, does it not?

  10. John.

    Amazing how people label things with such skepticism when the person being discussed is not their candidate of choice, yet that same person would look at a speech from someone they liked totally different.

    Why not take him at his word? Why not believe what he says? Expect good things from a person, and they’ll likely rise to that. Expect bad, and you’ll get bad.

    Remaining in poor opinion of someone really only hurts the person harboring the poor opinion, does it not?

  11. I’m kind of excited about Palin, too. I’m just amazed that she has five children, that her youngest was born in April, and that, regardless, she’s already ready to take on the role of first woman VP.

    Wow.

    I have one child–a toddler–and I feel accomplished if I get my family fed, I get to do a little dusting here and there, catch up with some chores, and get a shower in every day.

  12. I’m kind of excited about Palin, too. I’m just amazed that she has five children, that her youngest was born in April, and that, regardless, she’s already ready to take on the role of first woman VP.

    Wow.

    I have one child–a toddler–and I feel accomplished if I get my family fed, I get to do a little dusting here and there, catch up with some chores, and get a shower in every day.

  13. Palin is in favour of allowing creationism to be taught alongside evolution, and fought listing polar bears as an endangered species. I’m just saying.

  14. Palin is in favour of allowing creationism to be taught alongside evolution, and fought listing polar bears as an endangered species. I’m just saying.

  15. One of my bosses and his wife did something similar. His wife was married to another man and pregnant with a down’s baby when her husband was killed in a car crash. Shortly after that, she dated my boss, and the rest his history. Their daughter is amazing and their story is inspiring. Down’s babies are beautiful, too.

    McCain also has an inspiring story about his daughter, Bridget, who was adopted from an orphanage. I believe love shows it colors when it hurts. Adopting Bridget politically damaged McCain 8 years ago. Love is about sacrifice.
    http://www.encyclocentral.com/13865-Bridget_Mccain_The_Wonder_Child.html

  16. One of my bosses and his wife did something similar. His wife was married to another man and pregnant with a down’s baby when her husband was killed in a car crash. Shortly after that, she dated my boss, and the rest his history. Their daughter is amazing and their story is inspiring. Down’s babies are beautiful, too.

    McCain also has an inspiring story about his daughter, Bridget, who was adopted from an orphanage. I believe love shows it colors when it hurts. Adopting Bridget politically damaged McCain 8 years ago. Love is about sacrifice.
    http://www.encyclocentral.com/13865-Bridget_Mccain_The_Wonder_Child.html

  17. I watched it all. After the 32 thank yous at the beginning, he gave a powerful and convincing speech with many promises- if elected we’ll see if he’s able to deliver. Nice touch at the end with the music, fireworks, etc.

  18. I watched it all. After the 32 thank yous at the beginning, he gave a powerful and convincing speech with many promises- if elected we’ll see if he’s able to deliver. Nice touch at the end with the music, fireworks, etc.

  19. And Donny, thanks for responding to my brief post before; sorry for saying “I’m stunned that you’re voting for Obama,” I know you don’t take your vote lightly and you listen to all sides of an issue. For me the LIFE issue just looms huge in my mind, because Barack voted AGAINST the Born Alive Infant Protection Act- this seems completely heartless.
    LIFE obviously begins at conception. Sperm hits egg- human life begins. It is alive, so it is life. It’s species is human, so it is human life. Does the mother have the right to kill it as long as it is still inside her body? Many believe so, which is why in partial birth abortion they turn the child so he comes out feet first, so that while the head is still inside the Mom, the baby’s brains can be sucked out.
    I think Obama is in favor of overturning the ban on this practice.
    I know making abortion illegal won’t solve the problem, but to me Obama seems stubbornly cold hearted on this issue. Even NARAL and many pro-choice politicians were in favor of the Born Alive Infant Protection Act.
    To be honest, I feel a little sick to my stomach when I listen to Barack, even though he did give an eloquent speech.
    You are right that the answer is education. As long as mothers don’t want their babies and fathers won’t be responsible, we will have abortion whether it is legal or not.
    We can’t expect people to live by what we call Christian standards of moral behavior, especially when a huge amount of Christians don’t even always live by those standards. But people can be educated in responsible behavior and biological facts- when the sperm hits the egg, a human life begins. If you don’t want to be a father or a mother, DO NOT ALLOW THE SPERM AND EGG TO MEET! Don’t use abortion as birth control, “closing the barn door after the horse got out.”
    As far as helping the mothers who give birth to their babies, many people are helping and there is a big movement among Christians toward adoption. But our laws make adoption difficult.
    The eruption of murders in our country, the school shootings and various shooting sprees that are popping up in so many places, to me are connected with the de-valuation of human life.
    People and animals have killed their young since life began. No matter how modern or educated we get we still kill and/or abuse our children.
    I know there’s no easy answer to this horrible and troubling issue of destroying babies in the womb, but I just CAN’T vote for a candidate who supports that “right” so stubbornly, even though Roe v Wade may never be overturned.
    It will be a very interesting election. And if Obama is elected, I will definitely be praying for him; I already am.

    And I don’t agree with the Republican party on everything. I’m thinking about it more this year than I ever have before!

  20. And Donny, thanks for responding to my brief post before; sorry for saying “I’m stunned that you’re voting for Obama,” I know you don’t take your vote lightly and you listen to all sides of an issue. For me the LIFE issue just looms huge in my mind, because Barack voted AGAINST the Born Alive Infant Protection Act- this seems completely heartless.
    LIFE obviously begins at conception. Sperm hits egg- human life begins. It is alive, so it is life. It’s species is human, so it is human life. Does the mother have the right to kill it as long as it is still inside her body? Many believe so, which is why in partial birth abortion they turn the child so he comes out feet first, so that while the head is still inside the Mom, the baby’s brains can be sucked out.
    I think Obama is in favor of overturning the ban on this practice.
    I know making abortion illegal won’t solve the problem, but to me Obama seems stubbornly cold hearted on this issue. Even NARAL and many pro-choice politicians were in favor of the Born Alive Infant Protection Act.
    To be honest, I feel a little sick to my stomach when I listen to Barack, even though he did give an eloquent speech.
    You are right that the answer is education. As long as mothers don’t want their babies and fathers won’t be responsible, we will have abortion whether it is legal or not.
    We can’t expect people to live by what we call Christian standards of moral behavior, especially when a huge amount of Christians don’t even always live by those standards. But people can be educated in responsible behavior and biological facts- when the sperm hits the egg, a human life begins. If you don’t want to be a father or a mother, DO NOT ALLOW THE SPERM AND EGG TO MEET! Don’t use abortion as birth control, “closing the barn door after the horse got out.”
    As far as helping the mothers who give birth to their babies, many people are helping and there is a big movement among Christians toward adoption. But our laws make adoption difficult.
    The eruption of murders in our country, the school shootings and various shooting sprees that are popping up in so many places, to me are connected with the de-valuation of human life.
    People and animals have killed their young since life began. No matter how modern or educated we get we still kill and/or abuse our children.
    I know there’s no easy answer to this horrible and troubling issue of destroying babies in the womb, but I just CAN’T vote for a candidate who supports that “right” so stubbornly, even though Roe v Wade may never be overturned.
    It will be a very interesting election. And if Obama is elected, I will definitely be praying for him; I already am.

    And I don’t agree with the Republican party on everything. I’m thinking about it more this year than I ever have before!

  21. Nancy,

    Last night I had a conversation on the telephone with a friend. She is also very concerned about the abortion issue. To me, I HAVE to ignore it because it has been used for far too long by the Republican Party to get my vote. I pointed out to her that if two people were to talk in detail for long there is ALWAYS going to be something upon which they disagree. Always.

    Because of the Republican party’s PROFESSED pro-life stance, Christians elect them and allow them to kill thousands of people in Iraq and other countries. Don’t you ever feel as if our military is used to play a grown up version of “Cowboys and Indians”? It’s almost like the Republican Party feels this need to make sure our troops are kept in top form by regularly getting them involved in conflict.

    Because of the Republican party’s PROFESSED pro-life stance, Christians elect them and allow them to keep lining the pockets of their buddies.

    I couldn’t believe it when Dick Cheney’s company, Haliburton, was awarded the multi-BILLION dollar job of reconstructing Iraq after we bombed it back to the stone age. It would seem to me that Haliburton should have been eliminated from consideration simply due to a conflict of interest.

    Because of the Republican party’s PROFESSED pro-life stance…

    …the list could go on and on. But since actions speak louder than words, it becomes evident that the party really ISN’T pro-life after all. They flat out lie to us and say that they are.

    So we have a choice between a party that is honest about being pro-choice, and a party that is pro-choice but claims to be pro-life. If the party line really WAS pro-life, the justices they nominated would not have made the decision they made in 1973 on Roe v Wade. If the party line was REALLY pro-life, the 5 Republican administrations that have held the office of President since that 1973 decision would have overturned it by now.

    5 Republican Presidents! 2 of which were re-elected to their second term, making the total number of Republican Presidents effectively 7.

    Yet still, Roe v Wade has not been overturned. And still, in my mind, I keep thinking about how it was Republican nominees to the Supreme Court who brought us Roe-V-Wade to being with.

    Obama’s thoughts on abortion are disgusting. But I am also disgusted by those who try to convince us that he is sitting there rubbing his hands together, frothing at the mouth in anticipation to kill more babies. It’s just not true. Just as John McCain will not cleanse this country of abortion, it is my opinion that Obama will not bring us more liberal policies on abortion. No matter what the scare mongers try to tell us, Obama is not going to affect our current abortion situation one way or another while in office, regardless of how he feels about it.

    And it is my opinion that no matter what is said about McCain, he will not affect the abortion situation one way or another while in office. Abortion will still be just as accessible at the end of the next Presidential term as it is now, no matter who is in office.

    That being the case, each candidate’s opinions on abortion will not affect the candidate’s service as President of the United States. And because of that, I look toward other issues to make my choice.

    One way to cause major change in this country is to make its people feel hope. To inspire them. To get them riled up. I believe Barack Obama will do that. The citizens of this country have MUCH more power than its politicians to effect change within this country. And while he may make some people feel “safe” about topics such as abortion, John McCain isn’t going to excite anyone to get up and do something about the problems our country faces. For a few months after election, certain people might feel glad he won, but after that they’ll rub their eyes and go back to sleep.

    Barack Obama on the other hand? I think he’ll be like a cheerleading squad, cheering us on to get up and do something. Even if people disagree with him, I doubt they’ll just lay down and go back to sleep. Changes will happen.

    Should Barack actually try to make abortion laws more open, which I don’t think will happen as I previously stated, there will be an outcry from those who do not wish that to happen that will drown out his plans. We live, after all, under a system of government of checks and balances. The Supreme Court has already ruled on Partial Birth Abortion, and just as they have not overturned Roe-v-Wade, even so I do not believe they will ever overturn the ban on Partial Birth Abortion.

    So again, this country’s abortion situation is not going to change one way or another, regardless of who is in office. On other major issues, I see Barack Obama’s position as being much closer to “what Jesus would do” than the positions of his opponent.

    As cliché as it may sound, I am of the opinion that Obama really IS the candidate for change. And I’m very ready for change.

    (by the way, I “changed” the video source for Obama’s speech… it is now all in one file with more footage… watch it again. 🙂 )

  22. Nancy,

    Last night I had a conversation on the telephone with a friend. She is also very concerned about the abortion issue. To me, I HAVE to ignore it because it has been used for far too long by the Republican Party to get my vote. I pointed out to her that if two people were to talk in detail for long there is ALWAYS going to be something upon which they disagree. Always.

    Because of the Republican party’s PROFESSED pro-life stance, Christians elect them and allow them to kill thousands of people in Iraq and other countries. Don’t you ever feel as if our military is used to play a grown up version of “Cowboys and Indians”? It’s almost like the Republican Party feels this need to make sure our troops are kept in top form by regularly getting them involved in conflict.

    Because of the Republican party’s PROFESSED pro-life stance, Christians elect them and allow them to keep lining the pockets of their buddies.

    I couldn’t believe it when Dick Cheney’s company, Haliburton, was awarded the multi-BILLION dollar job of reconstructing Iraq after we bombed it back to the stone age. It would seem to me that Haliburton should have been eliminated from consideration simply due to a conflict of interest.

    Because of the Republican party’s PROFESSED pro-life stance…

    …the list could go on and on. But since actions speak louder than words, it becomes evident that the party really ISN’T pro-life after all. They flat out lie to us and say that they are.

    So we have a choice between a party that is honest about being pro-choice, and a party that is pro-choice but claims to be pro-life. If the party line really WAS pro-life, the justices they nominated would not have made the decision they made in 1973 on Roe v Wade. If the party line was REALLY pro-life, the 5 Republican administrations that have held the office of President since that 1973 decision would have overturned it by now.

    5 Republican Presidents! 2 of which were re-elected to their second term, making the total number of Republican Presidents effectively 7.

    Yet still, Roe v Wade has not been overturned. And still, in my mind, I keep thinking about how it was Republican nominees to the Supreme Court who brought us Roe-V-Wade to being with.

    Obama’s thoughts on abortion are disgusting. But I am also disgusted by those who try to convince us that he is sitting there rubbing his hands together, frothing at the mouth in anticipation to kill more babies. It’s just not true. Just as John McCain will not cleanse this country of abortion, it is my opinion that Obama will not bring us more liberal policies on abortion. No matter what the scare mongers try to tell us, Obama is not going to affect our current abortion situation one way or another while in office, regardless of how he feels about it.

    And it is my opinion that no matter what is said about McCain, he will not affect the abortion situation one way or another while in office. Abortion will still be just as accessible at the end of the next Presidential term as it is now, no matter who is in office.

    That being the case, each candidate’s opinions on abortion will not affect the candidate’s service as President of the United States. And because of that, I look toward other issues to make my choice.

    One way to cause major change in this country is to make its people feel hope. To inspire them. To get them riled up. I believe Barack Obama will do that. The citizens of this country have MUCH more power than its politicians to effect change within this country. And while he may make some people feel “safe” about topics such as abortion, John McCain isn’t going to excite anyone to get up and do something about the problems our country faces. For a few months after election, certain people might feel glad he won, but after that they’ll rub their eyes and go back to sleep.

    Barack Obama on the other hand? I think he’ll be like a cheerleading squad, cheering us on to get up and do something. Even if people disagree with him, I doubt they’ll just lay down and go back to sleep. Changes will happen.

    Should Barack actually try to make abortion laws more open, which I don’t think will happen as I previously stated, there will be an outcry from those who do not wish that to happen that will drown out his plans. We live, after all, under a system of government of checks and balances. The Supreme Court has already ruled on Partial Birth Abortion, and just as they have not overturned Roe-v-Wade, even so I do not believe they will ever overturn the ban on Partial Birth Abortion.

    So again, this country’s abortion situation is not going to change one way or another, regardless of who is in office. On other major issues, I see Barack Obama’s position as being much closer to “what Jesus would do” than the positions of his opponent.

    As cliché as it may sound, I am of the opinion that Obama really IS the candidate for change. And I’m very ready for change.

    (by the way, I “changed” the video source for Obama’s speech… it is now all in one file with more footage… watch it again. 🙂 )

  23. “Change”. We’ve heard it all before. Time may tell if he really will bring the change we all want or if he’s just another liar in a long succession of liars as president. From BOTH sides of the isle.

    Hitler delivered great speeches too, so words mean nothing until they’re backed by follow-through. Let’s see what happens!

  24. “Change”. We’ve heard it all before. Time may tell if he really will bring the change we all want or if he’s just another liar in a long succession of liars as president. From BOTH sides of the isle.

    Hitler delivered great speeches too, so words mean nothing until they’re backed by follow-through. Let’s see what happens!

  25. I’m with you, Donny. For me, abortion cannot be the only issue. And for those who believe it is the only issue, will you vote for *any* candidate who’s pro-life, regardless of their stance on other issues? I mean, Mussolini and the Italian Fascists were strongly anti-abortion. Don’t get me wrong — I’m not equating the Republican Party with the Fascists. I’m not going there at all. My point is just the question, where do you draw the line?

    For me, in general the Democrats seem to be the party of the whole life. It’s a shame that they can’t see that unborn babies are among “the least of these,” but otherwise they get that America is more than just a collection of individuals, that worrying about “the least of these” is an important part of government activity — government being all of us, by the way. The Republican Party seems to stop caring about life once it’s been born. I know that I’m generalizing, by the way, but that’s how the trend seems to be.

  26. I’m with you, Donny. For me, abortion cannot be the only issue. And for those who believe it is the only issue, will you vote for *any* candidate who’s pro-life, regardless of their stance on other issues? I mean, Mussolini and the Italian Fascists were strongly anti-abortion. Don’t get me wrong — I’m not equating the Republican Party with the Fascists. I’m not going there at all. My point is just the question, where do you draw the line?

    For me, in general the Democrats seem to be the party of the whole life. It’s a shame that they can’t see that unborn babies are among “the least of these,” but otherwise they get that America is more than just a collection of individuals, that worrying about “the least of these” is an important part of government activity — government being all of us, by the way. The Republican Party seems to stop caring about life once it’s been born. I know that I’m generalizing, by the way, but that’s how the trend seems to be.

  27. Another commentary on the speech… I know, some will agree, some will not. But it makes some good points!

    http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=28364

  28. Another commentary on the speech… I know, some will agree, some will not. But it makes some good points!

    http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=28364

  29. TES,

    This article makes some good points, too:

    http://news.yahoo.com/story//ap/20080904/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_fact_check

    It was written by the Associated Press:

    ST. PAUL, Minn. – Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and her Republican supporters held back little Wednesday as they issued dismissive attacks on Barack Obama and flattering praise on her credentials to be vice president. In some cases, the reproach and the praise stretched the truth.

    Some examples:

    PALIN: “I have protected the taxpayers by vetoing wasteful spending … and championed reform to end the abuses of earmark spending by Congress. I told the Congress ‘thanks but no thanks’ for that Bridge to Nowhere.”

    THE FACTS: As mayor of Wasilla, Palin hired a lobbyist and traveled to Washington annually to support earmarks for the town totaling $27 million. In her two years as governor, Alaska has requested nearly $750 million in special federal spending, by far the largest per-capita request in the nation. While Palin notes she rejected plans to build a $398 million bridge from Ketchikan to an island with 50 residents and an airport, that opposition came only after the plan was ridiculed nationally as a “bridge to nowhere.”

    PALIN: “There is much to like and admire about our opponent. But listening to him speak, it’s easy to forget that this is a man who has authored two memoirs but not a single major law or reform — not even in the state senate.”

    THE FACTS: Compared to McCain and his two decades in the Senate, Obama does have a more meager record. But he has worked with Republicans to pass legislation that expanded efforts to intercept illegal shipments of weapons of mass destruction and to help destroy conventional weapons stockpiles. The legislation became law last year. To demean that accomplishment would be to also demean the work of Republican Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana, a respected foreign policy voice in the Senate. In Illinois, he was the leader on two big, contentious measures in Illinois: studying racial profiling by police and requiring recordings of interrogations in potential death penalty cases. He also successfully co-sponsored major ethics reform legislation.

    PALIN: “The Democratic nominee for president supports plans to raise income taxes, raise payroll taxes, raise investment income taxes, raise the death tax, raise business taxes, and increase the tax burden on the American people by hundreds of billions of dollars.”

    THE FACTS: The Tax Policy Center, a think tank run jointly by the Brookings Institution and the Urban Institute, concluded that Obama’s plan would increase after-tax income for middle-income taxpayers by about 5 percent by 2012, or nearly $2,200 annually. McCain’s plan, which cuts taxes across all income levels, would raise after tax-income for middle-income taxpayers by 3 percent, the center concluded.

    Obama would provide $80 billion in tax breaks, mainly for poor workers and the elderly, including tripling the Earned Income Tax Credit for minimum-wage workers and higher credits for larger families.

    He also would raise income taxes, capital gains and dividend taxes on the wealthiest. He would raise payroll taxes on taxpayers with incomes above $250,000, and he would raise corporate taxes. Small businesses that make more than $250,000 a year would see taxes rise.

    MCCAIN: “She’s been governor of our largest state, in charge of 20 percent of America’s energy supply … She’s responsible for 20 percent of the nation’s energy supply. I’m entertained by the comparison and I hope we can keep making that comparison that running a political campaign is somehow comparable to being the executive of the largest state in America,” he said in an interview with ABC News’ Charles Gibson.

    THE FACTS: McCain’s phrasing exaggerates both claims. Palin is governor of a state that ranks second nationally in crude oil production, but she’s no more “responsible” for that resource than President Bush was when he was governor of Texas, another oil-producing state. In fact, her primary power is the ability to tax oil, which she did in concert with the Alaska Legislature. And where Alaska is the largest state in America, McCain could as easily have called it the 47th largest state — by population.

    MCCAIN: “She’s the commander of the Alaska National Guard. … She has been in charge, and she has had national security as one of her primary responsibilities,” he said on ABC.

    THE FACTS: While governors are in charge of their state guard units, that authority ends whenever those units are called to actual military service. When guard units are deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan, for example, they assume those duties under “federal status,” which means they report to the Defense Department, not their governors. Alaska’s national guard units have a total of about 4,200 personnel, among the smallest of state guard organizations.

    FORMER ARKANSAS GOV. MIKE HUCKABEE: Palin “got more votes running for mayor of Wasilla, Alaska than Joe Biden got running for president of the United States.”

    THE FACTS: A whopper. Palin got 616 votes in the 1996 mayor’s election, and got 909 in her 1999 re-election race, for a total of 1,525. Biden dropped out of the race after the Iowa caucuses, but he still got 76,165 votes in 23 states and the District of Columbia where he was on the ballot during the 2008 presidential primaries.

    FORMER MASSACHUSETTS GOV. MITT ROMNEY: “We need change, all right — change from a liberal Washington to a conservative Washington! We have a prescription for every American who wants change in Washington — throw out the big-government liberals, and elect John McCain and Sarah Palin.”

    THE FACTS: A Back-to-the-Future moment. George W. Bush, a conservative Republican, has been president for nearly eight years. And until last year, Republicans controlled Congress. Only since January 2007 have Democrats have been in charge of the House and Senate.

  30. TES,

    This article makes some good points, too:

    http://news.yahoo.com/story//ap/20080904/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_fact_check

    It was written by the Associated Press:

    ST. PAUL, Minn. – Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and her Republican supporters held back little Wednesday as they issued dismissive attacks on Barack Obama and flattering praise on her credentials to be vice president. In some cases, the reproach and the praise stretched the truth.

    Some examples:

    PALIN: “I have protected the taxpayers by vetoing wasteful spending … and championed reform to end the abuses of earmark spending by Congress. I told the Congress ‘thanks but no thanks’ for that Bridge to Nowhere.”

    THE FACTS: As mayor of Wasilla, Palin hired a lobbyist and traveled to Washington annually to support earmarks for the town totaling $27 million. In her two years as governor, Alaska has requested nearly $750 million in special federal spending, by far the largest per-capita request in the nation. While Palin notes she rejected plans to build a $398 million bridge from Ketchikan to an island with 50 residents and an airport, that opposition came only after the plan was ridiculed nationally as a “bridge to nowhere.”

    PALIN: “There is much to like and admire about our opponent. But listening to him speak, it’s easy to forget that this is a man who has authored two memoirs but not a single major law or reform — not even in the state senate.”

    THE FACTS: Compared to McCain and his two decades in the Senate, Obama does have a more meager record. But he has worked with Republicans to pass legislation that expanded efforts to intercept illegal shipments of weapons of mass destruction and to help destroy conventional weapons stockpiles. The legislation became law last year. To demean that accomplishment would be to also demean the work of Republican Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana, a respected foreign policy voice in the Senate. In Illinois, he was the leader on two big, contentious measures in Illinois: studying racial profiling by police and requiring recordings of interrogations in potential death penalty cases. He also successfully co-sponsored major ethics reform legislation.

    PALIN: “The Democratic nominee for president supports plans to raise income taxes, raise payroll taxes, raise investment income taxes, raise the death tax, raise business taxes, and increase the tax burden on the American people by hundreds of billions of dollars.”

    THE FACTS: The Tax Policy Center, a think tank run jointly by the Brookings Institution and the Urban Institute, concluded that Obama’s plan would increase after-tax income for middle-income taxpayers by about 5 percent by 2012, or nearly $2,200 annually. McCain’s plan, which cuts taxes across all income levels, would raise after tax-income for middle-income taxpayers by 3 percent, the center concluded.

    Obama would provide $80 billion in tax breaks, mainly for poor workers and the elderly, including tripling the Earned Income Tax Credit for minimum-wage workers and higher credits for larger families.

    He also would raise income taxes, capital gains and dividend taxes on the wealthiest. He would raise payroll taxes on taxpayers with incomes above $250,000, and he would raise corporate taxes. Small businesses that make more than $250,000 a year would see taxes rise.

    MCCAIN: “She’s been governor of our largest state, in charge of 20 percent of America’s energy supply … She’s responsible for 20 percent of the nation’s energy supply. I’m entertained by the comparison and I hope we can keep making that comparison that running a political campaign is somehow comparable to being the executive of the largest state in America,” he said in an interview with ABC News’ Charles Gibson.

    THE FACTS: McCain’s phrasing exaggerates both claims. Palin is governor of a state that ranks second nationally in crude oil production, but she’s no more “responsible” for that resource than President Bush was when he was governor of Texas, another oil-producing state. In fact, her primary power is the ability to tax oil, which she did in concert with the Alaska Legislature. And where Alaska is the largest state in America, McCain could as easily have called it the 47th largest state — by population.

    MCCAIN: “She’s the commander of the Alaska National Guard. … She has been in charge, and she has had national security as one of her primary responsibilities,” he said on ABC.

    THE FACTS: While governors are in charge of their state guard units, that authority ends whenever those units are called to actual military service. When guard units are deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan, for example, they assume those duties under “federal status,” which means they report to the Defense Department, not their governors. Alaska’s national guard units have a total of about 4,200 personnel, among the smallest of state guard organizations.

    FORMER ARKANSAS GOV. MIKE HUCKABEE: Palin “got more votes running for mayor of Wasilla, Alaska than Joe Biden got running for president of the United States.”

    THE FACTS: A whopper. Palin got 616 votes in the 1996 mayor’s election, and got 909 in her 1999 re-election race, for a total of 1,525. Biden dropped out of the race after the Iowa caucuses, but he still got 76,165 votes in 23 states and the District of Columbia where he was on the ballot during the 2008 presidential primaries.

    FORMER MASSACHUSETTS GOV. MITT ROMNEY: “We need change, all right — change from a liberal Washington to a conservative Washington! We have a prescription for every American who wants change in Washington — throw out the big-government liberals, and elect John McCain and Sarah Palin.”

    THE FACTS: A Back-to-the-Future moment. George W. Bush, a conservative Republican, has been president for nearly eight years. And until last year, Republicans controlled Congress. Only since January 2007 have Democrats have been in charge of the House and Senate.

  31. Very thorough! How come that this sort of painstaking journalistic effort seems to be applied so one-sided? Maybe I’m just looking in the wrong places but nowhere have I seen this kind of journalistic diligence applied to all four candidates.

    If you’re one of the four, the media will go to lengths not to dig too deep and make a lot out of very little–a celebrity with little substance. If you’re another one, the same media will stoop to any low to sling mud. Can you guess which one is which? I can…

    Well, I guess it’s all in the name of ratings and good entertainment. The only casualties are the same as usual: truth and good journalism.

  32. Very thorough! How come that this sort of painstaking journalistic effort seems to be applied so one-sided? Maybe I’m just looking in the wrong places but nowhere have I seen this kind of journalistic diligence applied to all four candidates.

    If you’re one of the four, the media will go to lengths not to dig too deep and make a lot out of very little–a celebrity with little substance. If you’re another one, the same media will stoop to any low to sling mud. Can you guess which one is which? I can…

    Well, I guess it’s all in the name of ratings and good entertainment. The only casualties are the same as usual: truth and good journalism.

  33. Speaking of facts and the media. Here’s another good one on the banner theme of CHANGE. President Bush’s approval ratings:

    http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm

    Nothing much to be proud of… But there’s one who did even worse, much worse…

    http://www.pollingreport.com/CongJob.htm

    Makes you wonder where CHANGE is needed the most, don’t it…

  34. Speaking of facts and the media. Here’s another good one on the banner theme of CHANGE. President Bush’s approval ratings:

    http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm

    Nothing much to be proud of… But there’s one who did even worse, much worse…

    http://www.pollingreport.com/CongJob.htm

    Makes you wonder where CHANGE is needed the most, don’t it…

  35. TES,

    Did you know that both sides accuse the media of favoring the other side? I read conservative as well as liberal publications. Conservatives say the media is liberally biased. Liberals say the media is conservatively biased.

    The truth is that overall it’s pretty balanced. But when we take one side over another, when we read the side that favors our views we simply agree with it and move on. When some publication goes against what we think, we pay a lot of attention to it and it sticks out in our mind.

    The facts of the matter are this:

    20 months ago, Sara Palin was the part-time mayor of a town of 7,000 people.

    ^^^ This gives me hope for my son’s mother! She’s been a resident of a similar sized town her entire life. Should she run for office, I’m sure she can get enough people to vote for her to elect her Mayor! After a few years as part-time mayor, who knows where her future could lead! Perhaps to, say, the Vice President of the United States? And if she was lucky enough to run with the oldest man ever elected President (IF he is elected), and he died, she’d be the leader of the most powerful country in the world! YES!!

    Another note: Last year, 2007, was the year Sara Palin received her first Passport… she has been outside the country ONCE (to visit Alaskan troops in Iraq).

    A few more notes of interest:

    Sara Palin is currently the Governor of a state who’s population is HALF THE SIZE of Sacramento county. Now, I haven’t paid attention to what part of Washington you reside in, but I’ll bet you can find a city within driving distance that has a larger population than Sara Palin’s entire state. Would you like to see the mayor of that city as the Commander in Chief of this country?

    Sara Palin received her education, a Bachelor’s degree in communications-journalism, from the University of Idaho.

    The Center for Disease Control puts the national average life expectancy for men at 77 years. McCain is 72. He has a much higher than average chance of dying during his term, if elected. And Sara Palin would become our commander in Chief, expected to lead us, not only here in our country, but in the world economy as well.

    I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect a Commander in Chief that has a little more in the way of qualifications.

  36. TES,

    Did you know that both sides accuse the media of favoring the other side? I read conservative as well as liberal publications. Conservatives say the media is liberally biased. Liberals say the media is conservatively biased.

    The truth is that overall it’s pretty balanced. But when we take one side over another, when we read the side that favors our views we simply agree with it and move on. When some publication goes against what we think, we pay a lot of attention to it and it sticks out in our mind.

    The facts of the matter are this:

    20 months ago, Sara Palin was the part-time mayor of a town of 7,000 people.

    ^^^ This gives me hope for my son’s mother! She’s been a resident of a similar sized town her entire life. Should she run for office, I’m sure she can get enough people to vote for her to elect her Mayor! After a few years as part-time mayor, who knows where her future could lead! Perhaps to, say, the Vice President of the United States? And if she was lucky enough to run with the oldest man ever elected President (IF he is elected), and he died, she’d be the leader of the most powerful country in the world! YES!!

    Another note: Last year, 2007, was the year Sara Palin received her first Passport… she has been outside the country ONCE (to visit Alaskan troops in Iraq).

    A few more notes of interest:

    Sara Palin is currently the Governor of a state who’s population is HALF THE SIZE of Sacramento county. Now, I haven’t paid attention to what part of Washington you reside in, but I’ll bet you can find a city within driving distance that has a larger population than Sara Palin’s entire state. Would you like to see the mayor of that city as the Commander in Chief of this country?

    Sara Palin received her education, a Bachelor’s degree in communications-journalism, from the University of Idaho.

    The Center for Disease Control puts the national average life expectancy for men at 77 years. McCain is 72. He has a much higher than average chance of dying during his term, if elected. And Sara Palin would become our commander in Chief, expected to lead us, not only here in our country, but in the world economy as well.

    I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect a Commander in Chief that has a little more in the way of qualifications.

  37. Like one who spends 19 months campaigning while he’s supposed to be a senator…..

  38. Like one who spends 19 months campaigning while he’s supposed to be a senator…..

  39. There is no doubt that Ms. Palin is lacking in the experience area. But in this of all races, that has obviously not stopped the same people who are now making a big deal out of experience from nominating someone whose experience level is pretty much in the same ballpark with hers.

    I wish I’ll be in McCain’s shape by the time I get to be his age. But you’re right, he’s pushing the odds. With Obama we’ll know for sure that regardless of what actuarial tables or CDC say, we’ll start out with someone who can talk really well…and that’s about it.

    In a perfect world, perhaps we would have more choices. But this is it… Well, at least the McCain ticket got one thing right over the Obama ticket: Give the training wheels to the second in charge and let them serve under the Prez, instead of having the experienced guy (of the big and bad Washington establishment, no less) provide on-the-job training for his clueless and inexperienced boss.

  40. There is no doubt that Ms. Palin is lacking in the experience area. But in this of all races, that has obviously not stopped the same people who are now making a big deal out of experience from nominating someone whose experience level is pretty much in the same ballpark with hers.

    I wish I’ll be in McCain’s shape by the time I get to be his age. But you’re right, he’s pushing the odds. With Obama we’ll know for sure that regardless of what actuarial tables or CDC say, we’ll start out with someone who can talk really well…and that’s about it.

    In a perfect world, perhaps we would have more choices. But this is it… Well, at least the McCain ticket got one thing right over the Obama ticket: Give the training wheels to the second in charge and let them serve under the Prez, instead of having the experienced guy (of the big and bad Washington establishment, no less) provide on-the-job training for his clueless and inexperienced boss.

  41. Hi Donny,

    I gave some more thought to your reply. As always, it’s hard to see let alone question one’s biases. ..

    Therefore, I am curious now: Can you point to an article authored by something of the status of AP that d undertook an equally determined effort to fact check Obama’s convention appearance?

    I know, I know, there are those who have turned reviews into indiscriminetly partisan attacks (and the AP article above is certainly guilty of that), and there are the “fringe” writers or pundits whose mind is made up before the fact anyhow. But show me an article like the one above reviewing, say, Obama’s legislative experience (I know, that would be a pretty short article, but where is it), his voting record (that is quite extremist compared to most of his senatorial colleagues to say the least), corrupt political and religious connections, etc.

    By comparison to this single article along, the media has unleashed a regular Obama love fest. Paradoxically, he has received the most thorough vetting from the likes of the Clintons and the guy who sold out his convictions in the hopes of becoming VP.

    But maybe I am just too biased for my own good. So perhaps you can providea link or two where media of “real stature” tries to do to Obama what they did to McCain/Palin.

  42. Hi Donny,

    I gave some more thought to your reply. As always, it’s hard to see let alone question one’s biases. ..

    Therefore, I am curious now: Can you point to an article authored by something of the status of AP that d undertook an equally determined effort to fact check Obama’s convention appearance?

    I know, I know, there are those who have turned reviews into indiscriminetly partisan attacks (and the AP article above is certainly guilty of that), and there are the “fringe” writers or pundits whose mind is made up before the fact anyhow. But show me an article like the one above reviewing, say, Obama’s legislative experience (I know, that would be a pretty short article, but where is it), his voting record (that is quite extremist compared to most of his senatorial colleagues to say the least), corrupt political and religious connections, etc.

    By comparison to this single article along, the media has unleashed a regular Obama love fest. Paradoxically, he has received the most thorough vetting from the likes of the Clintons and the guy who sold out his convictions in the hopes of becoming VP.

    But maybe I am just too biased for my own good. So perhaps you can providea link or two where media of “real stature” tries to do to Obama what they did to McCain/Palin.

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